Try www.microcode.com for free demos for both.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ivan Cenov <okto7@BOTEV.TTM.BG>
To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Date: Friday, April 17, 1998 3:34 AM
Subject: [OT] Schematic, simulation & PCB devlepment tools


>This is not PIC specific but I think someone can tell me something.
>
>I am searching for integrated development enviroment system for
>schematic capture, simulation and PCB editting.
>
>By now I have seen old verions of MicroSim Design Center and
>Protel Schematic & PCB.
>Do someone knows about some else ?
>
>Ivan Cenov
>okto7@botev.ttm.bg
>