>I appreciate that this is an odd question to ask on a PIC list, but >why did you opt for that part if you need to go to external memory ? Because it was originally written for a '73 20MHz in MPLAB-C (which used ALL ROM to the byte!). I ported it to HiTech C, and ended up with 550 ROM words free. I added a ton of functionality to it and had it fitting in a '77 (lots of unused I/O and about 400 ROM free), except for the need to buffer messages (most RAM was used). I investigated 68HC11, Z180, and others, but due to major timing differences (portions of the code are _very_ time critical - it analyzes NTSC video data) it would have meant a major rewrite of the code. My delivery date is too close to even think about new processor architecture on top of new hardware. I decided to take the easy way out - PIC17. The '752 has a bunch of A/D and still more than enough I/O to do the job I need. External RAM (Cypress, message buffer) and Flash ROM are just too convenient. >An expanded 17C part seems to me to be all economically wrong with >the port pins you loose, twice as many chips for external memory and Because of the cost of windowed parts (I recently bought 850+ PIC16C73A/JW parts, and priced 10000+ '77/JWs) it is _far_ more economical to go with external ROMs, and because we wanted to update the firmware in the field (not so firm any more - call it mushware ) we decided to go with AMD FLash 5V parts. Because we're doing everything with TQFP and TSSOP packages, space isn't a big deal. Because we don't need sockets for RAM or ROM, it's pretty small. So what - we added two '373 buffer chips (in SO format). That's a lot less space (and connections) than what it would take to get the I/O we would need with other processors. >expect that updating a flash with it would become quite a task >(compared to more mainstream micros). I'm making headway in this department. If you have any ideas, I'd like to hear them. Hope this makes it clear. Andy ================================================================== Andy Kunz - Montana Design Go fast, turn right, and keep the wet side down! ==================================================================