I'm trying to get into pic programming, the only experience i have is programming computers for about 5 years now. My elevtronics knowledge is almost non-existant. I got a couple of excellent books, Myke Predko's on Programming the pic microcontroller. And The Microcontroller Beginners Handbook. A friend of mine is in the process of building a pic writer. I can not afford to buy one, and do not trust what little electronics knowledge i have enough to try to build my own, so i was just going to get him to write mine for me. I was wondering if anyone had any advice for a begginer, like good projects or anything at all that will help me get into this area, and especially a good way to get the electronics experience/knowledge i'll need to be able to build my own circuits, thanks in advance. Krager krager@geocities.com krager@midspring.com