This is normal. The program LED will go out when the ITU software initalizes the parallel port. I allways start the software with the programmer hooked up and no chip in. Then I try to program or erase a chip without the chip in. The programmer gives an error but clears the program LED. I don't think it really hurts to be on but it bugs me so I clear it first. Norm At 05:03 AM 4/7/98 -0400, you wrote: >Hello Piclisters, > > I have just received the ITU Pic-1 programmer. After having >assembled it, I tried to follow the "Test & Use" section on Pg.8 of the >manual. However, after connecting the DB-25 cable to the PC and the >programmer's connector and applying 16volts AC, both the "Power led" and the >"Program led" are illuminated ,with the PIC16F84 out of circuit. > > I notice that the " program led" should only come on during >programming. Could you offer any explanation for this and a possible >solution to this problem. > > All other voltages are correct. > >