If you think people who respond with an answer you do not like are smartasses, then I suggest you don't use this list. Gus Need help with a 30 min. timer. Date: Tue, 31 Mar 1998 06:16:55 -0800 From: Steven Kosmerchock I thank everybody who had suggestions. Some people thought they were smart asses and suggested a 555. Well, at first I had a 555 timer connected to a cd4020B. The amount of time out was adjustable by a 250K pot connected from pin 7 to pin 2&6. The output was connected to a couple of txers that controlled a MOC3010. I just figured that I could implement a PIC to make the project more of a learning experience since I am new to these MCU's. Once again thank you to everybody that had some "positive" input. -- Gus Calabrese Lola Montes WFT Electronics 4337 Raleigh Street Denver, CO 80212 303 964-9670......voicemail wft@frii.com http://www.frii.com/~wft EMERGENCY: 791 High Street Estes Park, CO 80517 if no success with wft@frii.com, try .... wft@bigfoot.com then wft@eudoramail.com