Shahid, I too built the propic programmer and also used 2N3904 and 2N3906. I've only tried programming 16C84 and 16F84 .... works great. I set my VDDmin to 4.5V. Did you remember to put caps on the RB6 and RB7 lines? -Randie rohtsji@glenayre.com > From sheikh@EROLS.COM Sun Mar 15 11:44:40 1998 > Encoding: 25 TEXT, 48 UUENCODE > X-MS-Attachment: WINMAIL.DAT 0 00-00-1980 00:00 > Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:53:00 -0500 > From: Shahid Sheikh > Subject: Problems with the ProPic programmer (newbie) > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Hi all, > > I just made a propic v4.2 (from TATO Computers) programmer and when I read > a blank (new) 12C509JW in it, it gives me 3FFF on all the locations. That > is the same stuff I get if there is no pic on the programmer. The > programmer seems to be working OK as it turns on and off all the supplies > to the pic just fine. All my voltage levels are fairly accurate as well > (VPP1=12.98V, VDDprog=4.97V, VDDmax=5.50V and VDDmin=2.54V). > > The only significant changes to the circuit I've made is that I've used > 2N3904 and 2N3906 instead of BC547 and BC557 and I dont have a VPP2 on my > programmer. > > I know this information is vague but anyone has any idea why this may be > happening? I have a 3 ft cable connecting to the parallel port of my laptop > (Compaq Armada 4120). Is that cable too long? It was originally a shielded > parallel port printer cable with shielding connected to the DB25 cover. > > At this point I only have a 12C509JW and a 16C54AJW and both of them are > new. Is a new 508/509 supposed to read all 0's except for the last > location? > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > Shahid > > begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT > M>)\^(@\2`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$(@ <` > M& ```$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0@36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`0V ! `"`````@`"``$$ > MD 8`2 $```$````-`````P``, (````+``\.``````(!_P\!````6 `````` > M``"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'!I8R!M:6-R;V-O;G1R;VQL97(@9&ES > M8W5S``(P > M`0````4```!33510`````!X``S !````%P```%!)0TQ)4U1 34E45DU!+DU) > M5"Y%1%4```,`%0P!`````P#D:\pic\pic archive 3P8````>``$P`0```"8````G<&EC(&UI8W)O > M8V]N=')O;&QE M4#I024-,25-40$U)5%9-02Y-250N1415``,``#D`````"P! .@$````#`'$Z > M``````(!]@\!````! ````````*,/P$$@ $`+0```%!R;V)L96US('=I=&@@ > M=&AE(%!R;U!I8R!P M``\`#0`U```````I`0$@@ ,`#@```,X'`P`/``T`&P`Q````0 $!"8 !`"$` > M``!!-D,S.30X-C-&-3!"1#$Q.#%$048R04)!.# M`!0````+`",```````,`)@``````"P`I```````#`"X```````,`-@`````` > M0 `Y`*#TDY-#4+T!'@!P``$````M````4')O8FQE;7,@=VET:"!T:&4@4')O > M4&EC('!R;V=R86UM97(@*&YE=V)I92D``````@%Q``$````6`````;U00Y.! > MQ#\-\KPR$=&*> ``````````'@`># $````%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0`` > M`!$```!S:&5I:VA 97)O;',N8V]M``````,`!A#-;UZ9`P`'$%T#```>``@0 > M`0```&4```!(24%,3"Q)2E535$U!1$5!4%)/4$E#5C0R*$923TU4051/0T]- > M4%5415)3*5!23T=204U-15)!3D172$5.25)%041!0DQ!3DLH3D57*3$R0S4P > M.4I724Y)5"Q)5$=)5D53344S``````(!"1 !````Y ,``. #``"*!0``3%I& > M=9UDI%P#``H` M,@8`!L,"@PY0`]4'$P* ;GT*@ C/"=D[%8\.,#4O`H *@0YQ"V!N#A P,P@S > M7&@%L'ID;V.U```J$E4@`I$9D&P9Q1<*^Q.R# %C`$ @2&DR( = ;"P*A0J% > M22!X:G5S!4 `P YP') @"G #8' -X"!V-"X%$N H`U(@5$%43T(@"%!M<'5T > M!)!SYBD>D@G 86T'@ 7 `'#P9"!W: GP';$5D!Y UQYQ`F `<&L?4&X'T""@ > M`0X@0S4P.4I7(!,+@"/0="PD`2!G:49V!Y$'@" S1B4@(%,"(!R2('0AP" 5 > M(&/(871I`B!S+A^P$H W!4 $`"7# M)P)N;QZ0'N$E8272(,AO)J(J&B=P">!M)R$I8&(5'F!W!;!K"X!G($_^2QR0 > M!" D42?@!* $("5BC2&!;R@!)99S=7 +4%\(D"PC*?,>X1WC9@N 9>4FH$$E > MH6UY'P`&\ &0ZRA0)@!E)*!L!" *P!Y@LF8+<')L,8 `T&,(<# M,E #("A6$%!0,3T.("XY.*)6)#!61$0@PCT?( PY-S4$`,!X/34N72. 5B%C > M-B(+@#TTP#7P-%8I+ASL*O("(#,1O0"09P,`,- F, (P(!)Q.QB0+ZAC,O S > M8"1122=_)* >)"<3)N$[LQWP"8 @P#).,SDP-"%C/7.>-B/1'@`B,BZ ($(C > M<.PT-R%C/T$U/X0=P!E _SH1$H [T1Z -&$2X"5A,7'[*CD<[FLI4 ?@)= G > M$0N W0(0<@# )E(G`G8QX I0]R* (% A87D"(!Y@$H R@"&P > M,8!$$P# OS& +'$2@"]@"? LX3\=L?U ]3,PP#HA`: R(#HP`B#](P!C)E L > M\2_6"L @#0.(/XP-_ = > ML#QE2<0L0"E@%2#[2*,%0' M"X @84FU`_ ET%$%+.)*)?,]02_51$(.,$H1)* JP?T<[$$MD40B2]!2H1VQ > M.3.O0/4C5R%R6*$V/U%!627_!N!3@3\1)=$?H#*2(P%.,\L>@",!(". ."\C > M@2\SGF\],BQ!(B0EH3 G!"#P97AC904Q1($EQ"U0NP5 )A8_5BU&L2' ;$S0 > M_2R@=5%0+&()P29 ,Q(O8-<5D#LP,Y%D5@Y3$H!$(!9D"H44L0!ED ,`$! ` > M`````P`1$ ````! ```#T``0````$` > 0`````````P`--/TW``"-BI6Q > ` > end >