At 11:00 AM 3/16/98 +0100, you wrote: >Shahid Sheikh wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I just made a propic v4.2 (from TATO Computers) programmer and when I read >> a blank (new) 12C509JW in it, it gives me 3FFF on all the locations. That >> is the same stuff I get if there is no pic on the programmer. The >> programmer seems to be working OK as it turns on and off all the supplies >> to the pic just fine. All my voltage levels are fairly accurate as well >> (VPP1=12.98V, VDDprog=4.97V, VDDmax=5.50V and VDDmin=2.54V). > >I got the same problem on that programmer. >The problem I found is on the rising edges of the clock and data lines >used to program the PIC. Watching at them using a scope I saw a 45 deg >slope instead of sharp edge (perhaps may PC is too fast :-). >You should solve the problem REMOVING (or using a lower value) the 470pF >capacitor from RB7 and RB6 to ground or reducing the pull up resistors >to the same lines (R7 & R8). >I did the latter (I used 2.2K) and I am very happy with that programmer. > >Try that and let me know. > > Marco > > >---- >Marco DI LEO email: m.dileo@sistinf.it >Sistemi Informativi S.p.A. tel: +39 6 50292 300 >V. Elio Vittorini, 129 fax: +39 6 5015991 >I-00144 Roma >Italy > > If I may add: I use a 6' cat-5 cable and rj45 plugs on my Propic, no caps, and no problems on my 133MHz Pentium. I don't know if this helps or I am just lucky. John