Good teaching technique. Sort of how I taught my kids about the "Power Dragon" that lives in the wall, by teasing it with a pager clip with them at a safe distance from flying metal blobs. Neither of them ever went near an outlet after that. Sorry about the trailer, everyone. Email private for latest bulletin of what I have done to eliminate it. -----Original Message----- From: Hap Wheeler [SMTP:hap@STEALTH.KEHOE.PLATTSBURGH.EDU] Sent: Sunday, March 15, 1998 3:51 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [OT] Cable retained energy, was Super Caps I was once apprenticed to a high voltage cable splicer....(a lead wiper). after he spliced and insulated a power cable, he would "meg" it with a meg-ohm meter. this was a hand held generator with a meter to measure potential. He would have me crank up to 10,000 volts and measure current flow to ensure that there were no faults in the insulation. He would then bleed off the static charge with a hot stick with a bleeder resistor to ensure that we would not get zapped. As a graphic demo of how much charge the mile or so of cable could hold, he once shorted it to ground with a piece of rebar...it burned a bretty good chunk out of the rebar and I never forgot to bleed off the charge after that. HAP WHEELER Network Manager, Suny Plattsburgh wheeleff@splava.cc.plattsburgh.edu hap@stealth.kehoe.plattsburgh.edu ka2tcq@ka2tcq.ampr.org "Magic is real.....unless explicitly declared as integer" Wiz Zumwalt