jim nestor wrote: > The exception is that the ZIF assembly won't quite fit the common > 18-pin > protoboards (ITU I believe) if they are fitted with a crytal and a > largish electrolytic capacitor on the 5v power supply. It's OK if you > use a ceramic resonator and/or a tantalum capacitor. You might sqeeze > things in if you tried. However, it all fits fine on my protoboard They will if you stack them up with more 18 pin machine pin sockets. Have a look at my http://www.dontronics.com/hints.html page. Don McKenzie mailto:don@dontronics.com http://www.dontronics.com Don's Download Dungeon http://www.dontronics.com/download.html For more details, send a blank message to mailto:info@dontronics.com or mailto:simstick@dontronics.com or mailto:basics@dontronics.com