Hi Dan. you mentioned to program 17 series you need an adapter. when I updated picstart+ firmware I programmed 17c44JW on it without an adapter. Picstart+ is very good programing device by MICROCHIP. Always worked for me very well. Andre Abelian Dan Walkowski wrote: > At 01:49 PM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote: > >> HEya everyone! > >> > >> Well, I have yet another decision to make: which PIC programmer/package > >> should I buy? The ones that I have looked seriously at are: > > Ok, I've been sitting by the sidelines for weeks, seeing this question get > asked again and again. "Which programmer should I buy?" > A variety of answers is given, for many different brands of third-party > programmers, ranging in price, it seems, from ~$40 to ~$200. Each of them > has benefits and flaws, many of them only program certain part numbers, etc. > > So here is my question: Why doesn't anyone mention or recommend the > PicStart+?! > It is $149, which is cheaper than some of the less-capable third party > programmers, it programs ALL PIC's, (except the 17 series, unless you have > an adaptor), it can be used on a Mac or a PC (unlike parallel programmers), > it is very reliable, and has support from Microchip. > Unless you are trying not to spend more than $50, or don't care about > programming anything except an 84, it seems like the obvious choice. > > What is up with you people? :) > > Dan --