If capacitive storage is the mechanism here, as I believe it is, then the energy may be seen to be high enough to be "impressive" as follows Use 30pf/ft = 158 nF/mile - say 160nF - about double what I recalled for buried telephone communications cable PER PAIR.. Imagine that there are about 6 separate wires - the description of the cable suggested the possibility of a large number of multiple cores (I choose 6 for obvious reasons - choose your oiwn figures to suit). 6 x 160 = approx 0.1uF. Charge this to 100 volts. Now, any volunteers from amongst the ranks of the electrically experienced to seize a 0.1uF cap charged to 100 volts? At higher, say 500 volts, there will be even fewer. Surprisingly, even at 500 volts we only have a small fraction of a joule here (0.5 x 0.1E-6 x 500^2) and yet practical experience tells you you are going to get a nasty shock from it. (Or, if it doesn't, grab hold and see :-)). You would have to grab the ends of all pairs at once, logistically difficult, but the danger is a real one. I am vaguely disturbed by the thought that N wires in close proximity may not produce N times the capacitance but no doubt someone will comment on this (too lazy to go and find textbook on fundamentals to refresh memory). >I too am curious about the the specs on this cable. As a reference, a small >camera flash stores about 5 joules of energy. That's enough to make some >decent sparks, and more than enough to be dangerous. The formula for >capacitive energy storage is [C*V^2]/2. As an earlier poster mentioned, >RG-58 is approx 30pf/ft. When you do the math, you'd have to charge about >666 ft to about 1KV (probably wouldn't handle that) or 66666 ft to 100V to >get 5 joules. That's 11 miles of cable. Or maybe this cable is something >really exotic... always possible, given the eclectic nature of PicLister >backgrounds. > >Reg Neale >