Amp Inc in Gettysburg PA has some extruded Kynar cylinders about .5" diam, and 1" long that makes a great receiver. That is what they are made for, specifically. They don't make very good transmitters, though. You do better with ceramic. I made a little PC that fits inside of the Kynar cylinder, and provides two stages of amplification, and bandwidth trim. Once it is in place, I mold it into a urethane shape that fills all voids. The urethane is waterproof and is transparent to sound. Great hydrophone. I have dozens of the boards, if anyone is interested. BTW, I am wondering if there is any garbage attached. I called Microsoft, and they gave me their version of how to suppress it in Outlook 97. If they are right, email private, and I will reveal all. -----Original Message----- From: Alessandro Zummo [SMTP:azummo@ITA.FLASHNET.IT] Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 1998 12:40 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: OT: Radio Transmission in Water Il 10-Mar-98, The Jacky's scrisse: > Water conducts sound extremely well , better (and faster) than air. > I thinking in a very free form mode here but you could rip the > transducers off a couple of old fish finders and use em for tx and rcv. > units. > I think these guys operate above 30 KHz. You may be able to modulate > enough info on to the carrier to do slow frame video. The question is: where can i get them and how can i protect any other emitter from water without loosing it's capabilities... -- - *Alex* - http://freepage.logicom.it/azummo/