Hi I don't know if the document on the 16C84 (30445c.pdf) has all the detai ls about programming the chip. In my case with the 16F84 the datasheet only refered lightly to the subject and directs us to the familly documentation. I found the chapter on ICSP (In Circuit Serial Programming) under the name 31028a.pdf (chapter 28 of the PICmicro MID-RANGE MCU FAMILY manual, Microchip ref. DS31028A). The info on this document is also usable for off circuit programming. If you have any trouble reaching it on the Microchip Web site, just ask me by private E-mAil and I will send it attached (its only 98KB). Jorge F At 23:24 98.02.23 -0800, you wrote: >I found 30445c.pdf = datasheet for 16C84 at >http://www.microchip.com/10/Datasheet/PICmicros/PIC16F8X.htm >and downloaded it. Size = 1127170 > >If you still can't get it I'll be happy to send it to you. > >Rich > >At 12:45 AM 2/24/98 GMT, you wrote: >>I must agree with John, I found the same problem....no pdf file at >>the microchip site...now I AM DESPERATE to learn how to pgm a PICC84 >>so any help would be appreciated guys >>thanks >> >> >> >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> I saw an e-mail from the piclist, suggesting that the Microchip >>> 'Embedded Controller Handbook' was available on their website >>> as a .PDF file. I've searched on www.microchip.com, but I can't >>> find it. Can anyone offer a more specific URL? >>> >>> I'd like to get my hands on this, but since I'm a tightwad, I'd >>> rather not pay for it. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> John Midgley >>> >> >> Rock On......... >> >> >@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@>@ >> !! FRAK MAN !! >> !! The String Bender !! >> !! email: frak@snakebite.com !! >> !! Tel: 0161 248 5933 !! >> !! IP No: 130.88.189.11 !! >> @<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@<@< >> >> > >========================================= >= Abolish the Income Tax! Fire the IRS! = >= http://www.nrst.org/ = >========================================= > =============================================================== cumprimentos / best regards Jorge Ferreira mailto://jorgegf@mail.telepac.pt ------ Make sure brain is in gear before engaging mouth ------- ===============================================================