Hi, I just hooked up my own 8pin socket as noted in the readme file. Im still haveing problems. I go to program and the program light flashes for about 1/2 second. This is what I got before I tried programming the chip: :10000000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F80 :10001000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F70 :10002000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F60 :10003000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F50 :10004000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F40 :10005000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F30 :10006000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F20 :10007000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F10 :10008000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F00 :10009000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FF0 :1000A000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FE0 :1000B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FD0 :1000C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FC0 :1000D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FB0 :1000E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FA0 :1000F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F90 :10010000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7F :10011000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F6F :10012000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F5F :10013000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F4F :10014000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F3F 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:1002B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FCE :1002C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FBE :1002D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FAE :1002E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F9E :1002F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F8E :10030000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7D :10031000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F6D :10032000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F5D :10033000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F4D :10034000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F3D :10035000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F2D :10036000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F1D :10037000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F0D :10038000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFD :10039000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FED :1003A000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FDD :1003B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FCD :1003C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FBD :1003D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FAD :1003E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F9D :1003F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FC00CCF :10040000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7C :101FFE00FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F63 :00000001FF -------------- After Programming (Light flashed for 1/2 second then gave an error msg) :100000000000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F8E :10001000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F70 :10002000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F60 :10003000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F50 :10004000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F40 :10005000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F30 :10006000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F20 :10007000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F10 :10008000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F00 :10009000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FF0 :1000A000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FE0 :1000B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FD0 :1000C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FC0 :1000D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FB0 :1000E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FA0 :1000F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F90 :10010000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7F :10011000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F6F :10012000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F5F 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:10029000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FEE :1002A000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FDE :1002B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FCE :1002C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FBE :1002D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FAE :1002E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F9E :1002F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F8E :10030000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7D :10031000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F6D :10032000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F5D :10033000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F4D :10034000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F3D :10035000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F2D :10036000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F1D :10037000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F0D :10038000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFD :10039000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FED :1003A000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FDD :1003B000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FCD :1003C000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FBD :1003D000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FAD :1003E000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F9D :1003F000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FC00CCF :10040000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F7C :101FFE00FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F63 :00000001FF -------------- Line #1 is the only one that changed slightly. I'm assuming after doing this that the chip can no longer be programmed. 12c508 chip. :10000000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F80 <-Before :100000000000FF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0FFF0F8E <-After At 08:08 PM 2/21/98 PST, you wrote: >Joe > >Did you look at the read me file on the disk? Here is what they say >about PIC12C5XX devices. By 18 pin connector I assume you mean the 18 >pin socket... right? > > >Adapters for 12C5xx Support >--------------------------- >You can purchase a completed adapter directly from us($19), or you may >choose to wire an adapter yourself. This is very easy via the >connection of the five pin header on the PIC-1. Simply connect an 8 pin >socket to the header in this fashion: > > PIC-1 Adapter > header 8 pin socket > GND 1 ------------------> pin 8 > Vpp 2 ------------------> pin 4 > Vdd 3 ------------------> pin 1 > CLK 4 ------------------> pin 6 > DTA 5 ------------------> pin 7 > >All cable lead lengths should be kept under 6" for best performance. > > >Some notes on 12C programming >----------------------------- >Care must be taken when erasing /JW 12C devices since this will erase >the calibration constant from the device. When receiving a new 12C >device, we recommend that the contents of the device be read and saved >into a permanent file. After this, you may program the device normally. >When you need to erase the device, program the device with the permanent >file you created. You may then program the device again with your >program file. This will eliminate any chance of losing your calibration >constant and keep your internal oscillator running at the proper speed. > > >My question is... how do you know you fried pics if you havent >programmed one succesfully yet? The old magic smoke? > >Hope this helps. > >Charles >