At $148.88 (Digikey current price) you can't beat the PICSTART PLUS. The only bad things about it are speed and the inability to run from DOS. It attaches to the serial port. Comes with MPLAB and MPASM books, 16C84 chip, cd rom with embedded control handbook, MPASM and MPLAB. MPLAB also on diskette. The ITU programmer, similarly equipped, ends up being about $115. It doesn't have a case, cable, or power supply. Attaches to the parallel port. Does not program the 14000 or 17Cxx series parts. -bob On Fri, 20 Feb 1998, Kerry B Phillips wrote: > What experiences have you all had with the ITU Tech PIC-1 programmer? > (good, bad, indifferent?) How does its capabilites/performance compare > to the PICSTART Plus? > > Kerry >