I've used the DS1302 in a design. First, since the device is synchronous, you *don't* need the 32 kHz xtal to talk to the DS1302. Time will just stand still :) I used a crystal from IQD, with a load capacitance of 12.5 pF, works just fine. I'd say either your device is blown, or your program not accurate. /Anders *snip* >My second problem is that I can't get the DS1302 to talk back to me. I can only >assume that this is because the oscillator isn't running. Could someone please >confirm this for me as I've been going nuts with two really nice routines I've >written to set and read the time, but can't test them properly. >If anyone is using this device, could they please provide me with details of a >known good crystal along with details of any by-pass caps, or bleed resistors >if required. *snip*