For the small LCD, try Batron (i don't have an address, but their small 16x1 and 16x2 LCDs are sold by Farnell, and I'm sure Batron do 8x1) Steve Lawther ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: encoder and lcd Author: MIME:adeibe@CDF.UDC.ES at INTERNET-HUSKY Date: 06/02/98 18:30 The LCD I need have to be small, so I look for a 8 char by 1 row LCD or similar. The ones I have are too big to fit in the box (16x1 and 16x2), and I really don't need 16 characters.