Morgan, > Anyone know of a COP8 mailing list? There isn't one as far as I know, although people talk about them from time to time on comp.arch.embedded If you're using a canbus COP8, there is a (fairly quiet) can mailing list that you can subscribe to. Send a message to Majordomo@cichlid.com with the following text in the body of your email message: subscribe can - Andy. --------------------------------------------- Andrew David, Software Manager, Ultronics Ltd. AKDavid@Ultronics.co.uk ---------------------------------------------