At 10:10 PM 1/28/98 -0400, you wrote: > Would you >recommend the programmer from ITU Technologies at >http://www.itutech.com/pic-1kit.htm Yes. >My requirement is a programmer that will work with the minimun of trouble. The only problem with it is that there is no software that will run under WinNT so it is a bit annoying for me because i have to dual boot to win95. It has worked without problems for me (I have probably programmed about 50-100 pic16c84's with it - hehe trial and error developement - faster than simulating). MD -- Martin Darwin a.k.a Rambo [CtF] -- Play QUAKE!! martin@davin.ottawa.on.ca - 4th year Computer Engineering http://www.davin.ottawa.on.ca/~martin University of Ottawa Clan CtF - http://ctf.clanworld.com