In a message dated 98-01-28 10:19:50 EST, you write: << Actually, the copper foil technique was developed precisely because it is easier than the heat transfer method, and produces vastly superior results. It is very dificult for most people to get consistent results with the TEC sheets (and similar products), and the very fact that the toner is transferred twice limits the minimum reliable trace width. This new method promises high quality prototype PCB's with a minimum of fuss. CIAO - Martin. >> Hello Martin, I admit that I haven't tried the direct foil method (I would like to someday) but I have to take issue with the statement that the toner transfer method limits reliable trace width. I have spent quite a lot of time perfecting the toner transfer method. I routinely do double sided boards with traces down to 10 mil. I will admit that I gave up on commercially available transfer papers. My company uses a silicon coated mylar for our casting machine (www.dreitek.com if you are interested). I cut the scrap rolls from our ceramic casting operation into sheets and use that directly. I also found that you never use an ordinary houshold iron to do the transfer. It is far better to heat the board and NOT the transfer. I use a rubber mat heater controlled by an ordinary dimmer switch. I get the board hott enough to make the toner tacky but not so hot that it oxidizes the copper. I use a small paint roller to smooth out the pattern. I let it sit and cook for about 10 minutes, and then I give it a final roll with the paint roller. I remove the board and the transfer from the heat and apply an ice cube to the top of the transfer. It falls off with absolutly no toner remaining on the transfer sheet. For double sided boards I transfer the top side pattern and then drill two or more small holes that act as alignment for the bottom side transfer. When I flip it over I have to use another sheet of mylar underneath to prevent the other side from sticking to the heater. Most of the boards I make use surface mount PIC based devices. and surface mount components down to 0603 size. Dave Duley