> >From my experience with working directly with Microchip, I'd say that > there is an excellent chance they will do this - eventually (measured, > unfortunately, in several years of time - but the success of the 12CXXX > family already should have convinced them to offer such a version in all > the PIC families). I would also say that Scenix may provide them with some extra incentive to do this, as they have the internal osc feature as well (also an 8 bit divider down to 32kHz which is quite a good idea). > 3) If you need to guarantee better than a 2.5%-3% tolerance on Fosc over > ALL operating conditions, you're better off using a resonator or xtal, The Scenix datasheet mentions 8%. Not that it really matters. Either you need time accuracy (resonator) or you don't (Ext/Int RC). I don't really care if I debounce a button for 30ms or 50ms if I'm using it to turn on a relay or light bulb. As you point out, the real estate saving is significant. An HC49U crystal is bigger than the 12C509 and if you go to a smaller footprint part, the price jumps substantially. They've wet our appetite. Now we want more ! :-) > 5) I also believed it may have helped in reducing my total RFI emmision > signature for various reasons that I can't go into here... It would be interesting to see some data on that. (Not from you obviously. You'd have to shoot me) I'd like to see a comparison between Xtal, external RC and internal osc. Just as a guess, I wouldn't be suprised if the external RC was the worst. Anyone have the right gear ? Steve. ====================================================== Very funny Scotty. Now beam down my clothes. ====================================================== Steve Baldwin Electronic Product Design TLA Microsystems Ltd Microcontroller Specialists PO Box 15-680 email: steveb@kcbbs.gen.nz New Lynn, Auckland ph +64 9 820-2221 New Zealand fax +64 9 820-1929 ======================================================