>>Maybe a cheap vibrator can me made with a coil and a permanent magnet: The >>magnet monted on a spring plate so it swings without friction and noise, >>and driving the coil with resonant frequency? *very* cheap at high volume, >>but time, consuming to build in small production? > >Yes, this sounds like it might work, but I'm not looking to design the >thing. Does anyone know of sources for such? > >C. Webb The description fits the Star Micronics buzzers, series YMB et al. But they draw dozens of mils, too much to drive with a PIC output directly. Reg Neale