What is the difference besides whether the documentation is included or not? Here's my analysis, correct me if I'm wrong: PICSTART Plus - Programmer board, printed manuals, soaftware, accessories. PICSTART Lite 16B - Same Programmer board with only an 18pin ZIF socket, executable software on disk, RS232 cable. PICTSTART Lite 16C - Same programmer board with only a 40 pin ZIF socket, executable software on disk, RS232 Cable. The PICSTART Lite 16B is only $69 compared to the $200 for the PICSTART Plus. Can I still program the 12c671 and 12c672 in the PICSTART Lite if indeed it is the same board? ---Will Chapman Power Brick Designs