John Hansen wrote: > Here's what I do. I put the pic in a standard (cheap) socket. Then > I plug the socket into the socket that is on the PC board. snip > John Hansen I tried this a couple of times but quickly gave up as the osc didn't start reliably. I was using c84's + three pin ceramic res. 4mHz osc in XT mode, I think I also tried HS mode Anyone used this particular setup without problems should I try another make of resonators ? -- If God so loved the World (and created it) then why is it so imperfect It's got more bugs than windoze 95 peter@cousens.her.forthnet.gr