In a message dated 98-01-16 19:38:18 EST, you write: << A raw hall sensor won't but try using one of the auto spec devices with the magnet built in. The not produces a disturbance in the field which ..... Alternatively, you could use a reluctor sensor from an old Volvo or the rear wheel speed sensor from a BMW K100 motorbike. This only requires a peg in the flywheel (use 2 to keep balance) to trigger. These units have inbuilt magnets, respond at low revs (eg, starting) and are super reliable (can't kill it with dirt or oil). Watch the bi-polar pulse at revs. It bites! Bill >> Bill Its DULEY not DUDLEY All the original post said was Hall effect sensor. I have used the Interupter type hall sensors. They are very expensive! Around $80 US. I know because we killed a few because the metallic flag we were using wasn't aligned right and we kept cutting the sensor in half. Cool little cubic rare earth magnets inside! For a $1 Hall sensor I will stick to rolling my own.BYOM (Bring your own magnet!) Dave DULEY