In a message dated 98-01-15 18:58:16 EST, you write: << > If you have access to the front of the crank shaft, try mounting a disk with a notch cut out on to it and use a hall effect sensor. You will get a 5V pulse which is easy to count with the PIC's. It works for auto engine control so it should work here. If you have any questions email me. Peter G. peter.graham@dsto.defence.gov.au >> Hello Peter, A hall effect sensor won't detect a disk with a notch cut out of it. An optical interupter sensor will. Hall effect sensors detect magnetic fields. You could simply strap a good rare earth magnet to the crank shaft and detect that with a Hall sensor. They do that for auto trip computers. I designed one about five years ago. We had a magnet held to the drive shaft by two cable ties. Worked OK. Sorry to be nit picky Dave Duley