I have both and I like the timer / beeper to let me know when it is "done". The only thing I have had problems with on these is the little safety switch on my ER2. The little plastic lip that tells it the lid is closed didn't make contact after a while. Easy to eliminate the problem but I would have liked something a bit more rugged. The eraser works faster than many of the big "PRO" erasers and I can carry it to clients with me. I found it worth every penny. At 10:06 PM 1/12/98 -0800, you wrote: > I am new to PICs, and currently using PIC16F84 and would like to >eventually program some PIC12C508. I am curious if anyone would >recomend this UV Eraser DATARASE II from Walling Co. Which one should I >get ER2 or ER3? Is it worth it to get ER3 which has a built-in 2-8 >minute timer and time-out beeper? > > Thank You! > >Alvin Tan > >Sean Breheny wrote: > >> Hello fellow piclisters, >> >> I have seen some people on the list comment that chips undergoing UV >> erasure should be protected against ESD. I find this strange because >> UV >> light tends to ionize air and other materials and it would seem to me >> that >> it therefore lessens the chances of static buildup because it tends to >> make >> things more conductive. Also, I use the Datarase II to erase PICs and >> EPROMs, etc, and it doesn't provide enough clearance between the chips >> pins >> and the snap on cover for someone to put any normal amount on >> conductive >> foam on the pins. I suppose that one could push the foam down until it >> was >> level with the pins but I have never seen foam on a chip in this way. >> I >> would be interested if anyone has any more info on this. >> >> Sean >> >> +--------------------------------+ >> | Sean Breheny | >> | Amateur Radio Callsign: KA3YXM | >> | Electrical Engineering Student | >> +--------------------------------+ >> http://www.people.cornell.edu/pages/shb7 >> mailto:shb7@cornell.edu >> Phone(USA): (607) 253-0315 > > Larry G. Nelson Sr. mailto:L.Nelson@ieee.org http://www.ultranet.com/~nr