>>Seems someone is always wanting to know about Do It Yourself Programmers for the 16F84 That's me! >>Among the many out there, I decided to build Steve Marchant's I'd like to as well, putting a socket for the '84 on the board - but turning that schematic into a PCB layout would be one variable too many in the 'why doesn't it work?' stage. Can anyone send me/point me towards an EPS/PDF/some-format-I-can-print-from-Windows file? I'm keen to do this 'on the cheap', but I'm not proud - if someone in the UK has a PCB ready- made, I'll (gulp) buy it. Many thanks John M