In a message dated 11/01/98  18:14:07, you write:

<< I'm just starting , I would like to know what will I need to program the
 pic12c508 chips.  I have never done this before.  I have no hardware or
 software can anyone please help me. >>

If you have no HARDWARE can a I sugest a computer or shares in rubber is a
good place to start !

But seriously a Picstart + and MPlab may not be the cheepest soulition but its
worth every pound / dollar / various other stange currency.

Cheers Steve.......