>I've found the DigiKey resonators (ECS I think) to work great at 4MHz >and >10MHz and not at all at 20MHz. Haven't tried other frequencies; any >idea >what the problem at 20MHz is? > After finding my prototypes worked with the ECS resonator at 16 MHz, we went ahead and built 100 units using them. They all either didn't work at all or failed under elevated temperature. I talked with ECS, Integrity and muRata. Both ECS and Integrity said that the resonators worked in their sample circuit (using a cmos inverter) and if they didn't work in my circuit (the 16c74a) the problem was my circuit. In talking with muRata, I found that they work with the semiconductor companies, getting samples of the chips and modifying the resonator design as necessary for reliable operation with that chip. When I spoke with them a little over a year ago, they had not characterized a device for use with Microchip as that time. However, I found that the existing devices seem to work fine (we've probably shipped about 1,000 systems with their resonators on the 16c74a). As to "what the problem is", I imagine there is not enough gain in the 16c74a to reliably get over the losses in the other resonators. I talked with Microchip about getting plots of input Z, output Z, gain and phase vs frequency for the oscillator. They did not have that data and said it would be expensive to produce. So, we end up with resonators that don't work and I wasn't able to give the resonator companies specs on what WOULD make it work, since Microchip had not completed the tests. Microchip did correctly point out that they provide about as much oscillator data as other microcontroller manufacturers (very little). So... we ended up using muRata. Harold