Nobody's really responded with the five dumbest things yet. Here they are, with the dumbest first. I've done all of the following: 1. Check if the chip is in backwards (OR wait five minutes for the chip to start smoking). 2. Check to see if you have 5v (or 3v or whatever). 3. Check to see if you have 5v on the MCLR line. 4. Check to see if you have your watchdog time turned on AND a CLRWDT statement. 5. Check to see if the oscillator is oscillating. Nine times out of ten when I have a circuti that doesn't work, its one of these dumb things AGAIN. Best Regards, Lawrence Lile