In a message dated 17/12/97 12:26:14, genie@ERGO.COM.AU (Paul Drummond) writes: << I am sick off constantly downloadin all this shit...BYE! Genuine questions only for gods sake >> There is tale that there is a very fine line between Genius and Insanity it would apper that the author of the orignal posting maybe treading rather close to the later . Lets face it as every good engineer knows the manual should only contain information on what to do after you have pluged it in and found it not working. Plug first read later when the novelty value has worn off...... Cheers Steve.....