[I sent this once before, but the posting went to listserv, rather than piclist. My apologies if this goes out twice. I've trimmed the quoted text for try 2.] I'm using IF-D91 photodiodes and IF-E91B LEDs made by "Industrial Fiber Optics". They mate with standard 1000 micrometer plastic fiber cable. The LED's and photodiodes have built in lens and connector housings. You cut the fiber with a hot knife and stick it into the LED and tighten the nut, no other hardware required, no polishing required. These parts work fine at slow speed like 9600 baud, with just current limiting and pull-up resistors. That's all I need. They'll go somewhat faster, but not anywhere near 50Mhz. I'm using duplex fiber, which is 2 fibers stuck together like zip cord. I've run some out to my hottub (http://www.hamjudo.com/cgi-bin/hottub). This will let me do fancier stuff without the risk of electrocution. (I'll get around to updating the write up eventually.) I got the fiber, photodiodes and LEDs from Circuit Specialists Inc. (http://www.cir.com). Digikey also sells the stuff except for the duplex fiber (http://www.digikey.com). In quantity 10, Circuit Specialists charged me $2.40/meter for the duplex fiber, $3.02 for each photodiode and $2.37 each for the LEDs. The hot knife was $19.95 (it is a soldering iron handle which holds Xacto blades). I'd like to send power down the fiber too. Anyone know where to get solar cells designed to work with fiber? It seems easy to get a lot of light energy into the fiber, but much more complex to get that back out at the 3 or so volts that a LC PIC needs. -- paulh@hamjudo.com http://www.hamjudo.com The April 97 WebSight magazine describes me as "(presumably) normal".