Terviist!

please, can you be more specific?

Can you tell me who offers such services, or how to find them?

I don't doubt the technical feasibility of this, but as it is presented
so far,
it sounds like one of those "urban legends" (you know: the story about
the dog
in the closet choking on the burglar's finger it had bitten off, or
whatever that was...)

I would like to know how much it really costs and how long it really
takes,
and what the success rate is (do you need a number of parts to ensure
full ROM reconstruction),
is it a destructive process (can you sneak the cracked part back into
service?).

And then I would like to hear these guys discuss what methods are
better, more expensive, etc.

Peter F. Klammer / pklammer@racom.com
Racom Systems, Inc. / 6080 Greenwood Plaza Blvd. / Englewood, CO 80111
(303)773-7411 / FAX:(303)771-4708 / http://www.racom.com
World's First Dual-Interface Symmetric-Access FRAM Smartcard

> ----------
> From:         Alexey Vladimirov[SMTP:avlad@MAILBOX.RIGA.LV]
> Reply To:     pic microcontroller discussion list
> Sent:         Tuesday, December 16, 1997 7:36 AM
> To:   PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
> Subject:      CODE SECURE WITH PIC?
>
> 15 Dec 97, zhuxh@cheerful.com writes to All:
>
>  z> I am woundering if the code protection with PIC's is as secure as
>  z> promised by Microchip?
>
> Yes, due to Microchip promise only, that code protection exists, and
> nothing
> about actual strength of code protection.
>
>  z> as far as I know, there is a company in Beijin that offers service
> to
>  z> help decode the Microchip's PICs. The cost is about US$1000 for
> each
>  z> chip!
>
> The same service you can also found in Moskow, Russia. They promise
> any
> protected PIC code reverse engineering with cost lower, than $1000
> (same price!) in one-two days. For PIC16C84 it can be done for almost
> free and
> for PIC16F8x price is lower, than $100. Probably, both companies use
> some
> technological backdoors in Microchip products. Sorry, I don't know any
> technical details, only see advertisiments and know some cases of the
> successfull using of this service.
>
>  z> I am afriad my own coding with PICs will be copied by others one
> day.
>  z> Do you have any idea on this? Is my worry unnecessary?
>
> The only things, that can protect you - change you product as
> frequently, as
> possible, add new features, new ideas and didn't try to obtain
> superprofit.
> If you need really protected product for security applications - use
> special
> security designed chips, not wide available microcontrollers.
>
> Alexey
>
> --- GoldED/2 2.50+
>