I am new to this list so this may be an old problem. If so, forgive the waste of bandwith but I don't know what to do. My problem is that my recently aquired Picstart Plus hates the 16C54. I have tried it with several PICs, but it fails (fryes) the '54. I installed 5 never used (new) '54s and sometimes it would tell me that they were not blank, other times communication with the programmer was lost, other times it will read the PICs OK, etc. Then I tried this '54s in a different programmer (from Parallax) and they were all bad. So I thought, well, maybe they were bad from the beginning. Then I read a working '54 previously programmed in the Parallax programmer, and it read OK, so I erased it and reprogrammed it in the Picstart and everything worked fine. I reprogrammed this PIC about 4 or 5 times until it also went suddenly bad. So the question is: is my programmer bad? or what the heck happened? I've also tried some '55, '65, '84, '58 and '509 PICs and none has given me any problems, only the '54. My programmer has software version 1.20, and I am using the latest version of MPLAB. Please any help will be greatly appreciated. Desperate PICer, Gabriel Gonzalez gabrielg74@hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com