Sean Breheny wrote: > In fact, the voltages involved in these little shocks gotten by > touching a door knob can easily be in the megavolts, or so I have > read. Kilovolts, actually. These sparks are three or four millimetres long. Played with the Ultor connector from a B/W TV? Half to an inch; ten to twenty kilovolts. Not recommended with colour TVs. A "mini" Van der Graaf generator about ten inches; 150 to 200kV. Megavolts (mains line testing stations including really BIG Van der Graaf generators) and you are looking at six foot bolts. Very approximate, depends on humidity and contact shape. Points produce such a "spray" of discharge that they won't allow a high voltage to be accumulated at all. And Van der Graaf generators are now obsolete in favour of Cockroft-Walton ("ladder") multipliers using comparatively cheap semiconductor High Voltage rectifiers. An ionisation source forms a sort of "very sharp" discharge point. I hadn't considered this before. My experience of cheap smoke detectors is that they are rubbish, a couple I bought and stored for a year insisted on beeping intermittently even though I could not fault the batteries and even put in new ones. Others lasted a few years then karked. Is this other people's experience too? I'm not impressed, but now I have some ideas on what to do with the old ones! Cheers, Paul B.