Andy Kunz wrote: >>Is it *necessary* to use a ground strap when >>experimenting with pic chips? > >No, in fact we often plug them into a powered-up circuit without a problem. > >"Your mileage may vary." In fact, some of us have done this with the chip rotated 180 degrees with similar results. YMMV -- Bob Fehrenbach Wauwatosa, WI bfehrenb@execpc.com