I bought several of the OTP parts of the 12C509. I am using Picstart Plus, with MPLAB-C 1.21. Its a simple program that I have run on many different chips, but this one just seems to sit there with no sign of pin change. The issues (as I understand them) Set INTERNAL RC Set Internal Reset clear OPTION bit 5 and 6 use the __TRIS macro to set bit 0 and 1 as outputs Whatelse is there? I use the Pins a Output , but they never change. Is there something I need to know about this internal clock? What is th e OSC Trim byte for? Thanks in advance John Craft John A. Craft (601)689-8100 Voice Vice President, Sr. Analyst (601)689-8130 Fax Nation Computer Services, Inc. http://www.ncs-ssc.com MSAAP Bldg 9110 craft@ncs-ssc.com Stennis Space Center, MS 39529