In a message dated 97-12-05 19:13:48 EST, you write: << I am new to microcontrollers, but have a small project I want to try. It is the infamous "Pinewood Derby Timer". So I am looking for good sources of information to get started. My neighbor loaned me a development kit for the Micromint kits, so will probably be working with that. >> Hello Steve, I did a pinewood derby timer last year! I worked out well. I used two PIC16F84s. One read the sensors (I am taxing the old memory now. I didn't document it too well.) and one displayed the time on a 4 inch 3 digit LED display. When a car won it alternatly flashed the winning track number and the winning time. The time and track number would continue flashing until another start. I could send you the code for the two PICs if you are interested. I was thinking of writing an article about the project. Dave Duley