>I must say that I was impressed by these chips and that fact that >Microchip worked to get most of the pins as I/O pins. If they had >just slapped a 16C5x core in an 8 pin package, they wouldn't be >nearly as useable. 5/6 i/o pins in a 8 pin package is quite an >achievement. Yeah, I've used them a lot as well, but I REALLY wish they'd put a brownout cct in - I usually lose a pin for an external reset! now when are they going to do one in a sot-23-6 package! The 12C671/2 are even better - intrc oscillator and an ADC, but not until feb for production quantities! Also some moron at MCT decided to support programming them on Promate before Picstart (not due 'til Feb, but sample devices are already here!) ____ ____ _/ L_/ Mike Harrison / White Wing Logic / wwl@netcomuk.co.uk _/ L_/ _/ W_/ Hardware & Software design / PCB Design / Consultancy _/ W_/ /_W_/ Industrial / Computer Peripherals / Hazardous Area /_W_/