Hi Kris, Krishna Murphy wrote: >I'm looking for people who've actually used the 12C507/8. I assume that you mean 508/509. I have used the 12C508 on a number of small projects and have had very good luck. We did have a small problem where a few of the parts with early date codes had incorrect oscillator cal values. Evidently some parts intended to have h'F0' came through with h'00' and some intended to have h'00' had h'F0'. In one batch of about 40 parts I found 8 bad ones. I understand that the problem has been corrected. I think the parts are great and intend using them on appropriate future projects. >I thought these were real, but I can't seem to find them. Our purchasing people have not had any problems finding them. We use both through hole and surface mount versions. Try Future or Pioneer. >Also, I'd like to know which development tools people really like >with these. I use a PICMASTER, still the best tool for PIC's. -- Bob Fehrenbach Wauwatosa, WI bfehrenb@execpc.com