> My idea as well, and i might add to that, a simple logic probe > available for a couple dollars from radio shack/ tandy usually works > out great Before I was able to get an emulater (ICEPIC in my case) I was stumped as to what was going on inside my PICs. I built a crude in-circuit tester consisting of a 1K resistor and an LED connected to each port pin. A set of DIP switches connected each LED to the pin, or not. I found this to be very usefuil in figgerring out what was going on inside a circuit. On simple one and two output designs, I could use PORTA as the I/O, and the entire PORTB was used as a diagnostic output. For instance, you can watch a counter increment or have the program put a variable out on PORTB to check it's value. I think this was a great project for a beginner. After purchasing an emulator I'd never use it again. Best Regards, Lawrence Lile