>I have a PICSTART 16B1 and found some references about a firmware on >DejaNews with which you could program a lot of additional devices. >Unfortunately the supplier doesn't support the 16B1 anymore and now I >wonder where else I could get the firmware? I have also been through this loop, looking for the Phoenix upgrade, but that was before I found the Piclist, and its global pool of enthusiasm(!). Is there anyone on the list who has a version of Pheonix that they could make available for others to download, maybe we could find the last version Jim Robertson created and put it on a web page or FTP site. Ideally, if Jim is unable to continue the work, perhaps someone could persuade him to release his source code as PD and someone else could 'pic up the baton' (sorry couldn't resist the pun), and continue development, I wouldn't mind trying, but I'm sure there are others much better qualified/experience than myself, who would relish the challenge, and earn themselves some kudos, and undying gratitude of us lowly, deprived and abandoned(by Mchip) 16B1 owners! What do you think?......Paul