On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:58:31 +0000, you wrote: >I've a PCB layout that will benefit greatly if I could (reliably) hook the >watch-crytal's capacitors to +V instead of Gnd. I've alway said they screwd up the pinout on the 18 pin devices - you always need a gnd near the osc pins, and MCLR is often tied to Vdd, but they put them the wrong way round! >If there's a sufficiently large cap. across the battery, this should be >equivalent, I think. As long as the cap has low impedance at the required frequency (size isn't everything!) - shouldn't be a problem at 32KKz - the usual 100nF ceramic ought to be OK. My main worry would be Vcc switching noise from the PIC or elsewhere affecting the oscillator - noise from the PIC shouldn't be too bad as it would be synchronous, but may be an issue if there were other clocks (e.g. using the watch xtal on the Timer 1 osc on a '74) >Has anyone tried this? Sorry, no - I'm always very nervous about using watch crystals - they can be somewhat tempramental! ____ ____ _/ L_/ Mike Harrison / White Wing Logic / wwl@netcomuk.co.uk _/ L_/ _/ W_/ Hardware & Software design / PCB Design / Consultancy _/ W_/ /_W_/ Industrial / Computer Peripherals / Hazardous Area /_W_/