Christoph Klein wrote: > there are dozens of programmers and programs for the pics-family. > But which (non commercial!) prommers can be used with mc's mplab > instead of their "picstart plus" ? None of them, Christoph... The only programmers currently supported by MPLAB are Microchip's Picstart Plus and Microchip's PRO-MATE and PRO-MATE II. -Andy === Andrew Warren - fastfwd@ix.netcom.com === Fast Forward Engineering - Vista, California === http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/2499