On Wed, 19 Nov 1997 22:18:32 +0000, you wrote: >In article <347358DC.7B0539D5@sunada.com>, Matt Bonner > writes >>MChip's official position is that code-protected devices cannot be >>erased. I have done some playing around and have found that they _can_ >>be erased. These are my observations: >> 1. Some 74As can take many hours to erase (3 or 4). >> 2. Code-protected parts tend to erase faster if they've been programmed > >Thanks - I'll give them a good soaking! > >What's really hacked me off about this is Microchips failure to put this >in the data sheet (although someone said it was on the CDROM - which I >havent got). Yes it is, surely everyone knows that the phrase ; "Note : Microchip does not recommend code-protecting windowed devices" really means "WARNING ! You will probably never be able to re-use them", don't they ? It's even printed in a nice shaded box, just so you know they mean it! :-) >Their latest 16CXX data sheet doesn't mention it at all - which I think >borders on the criminal. It should be up there in bright shiny red 36 >point letters...! > ..still I guess it makes them a few more sales.. Maybe, but I suspect incompetence rather than marketing reasons - look at all the bugs they put in their apnotes especially to teach people PIC programming the hard way by finding them all :-) >I'll let you know if I recover them.. > >Jim ____ ____ _/ L_/ Mike Harrison / White Wing Logic / wwl@netcomuk.co.uk _/ L_/ _/ W_/ Hardware & Software design / PCB Design / Consultancy _/ W_/ /_W_/ Industrial / Computer Peripherals / Hazardous Area /_W_/