Randie Ohtsji [4555] wrote: > > I thought the only difference between a "prototype" (PIC-Start Plus) and > a "production" (ProMate) programmer was the verification voltage. > The "prototype" only does a verification at 5VDC while the "production" > verifies at both Vddmin and Vddmax (4.5VDC and 5.5VDC respectfully). You're right. I can only surmise that what the PIC-start plus thinks is blank at 5.0V, the ProMate doesn't when it checks the extremes. BTW, when the PIC-start plus reports "erased" (and the ProMate doesn't), apparently the _program_ space is erased because I can program and use it again. This is getting confusing - let's go back to what MChip says. The device cannot be erased (even though I've done it). --Matt