SNIP! SNIP! >> - Rick >>--- >> You can help design a Serial Sonar Unit for model robots! >> Vist http://www.notesguy.com/notesguy for details, or >> send mail to Rick Dickinson at rtd@notesguy.com Rick, A few years back Lawrence Livermore Labs was working on a ultra low power pulsed radar device that would go for about $10US. I am not however sure what happened to the device except a few companies were using it to detect rebar and in automobile colision detection circuits. I am not sure where the technology lay now but it may be useful in gleaning design specs from. I will pull out the article and see what I can pull up in the present that may help you. One of these devices hooked to a PIC and serial chip would be just as cheap as an ultrasonic unit. John Adams -- http://pobox.com/~electronics -- electronics@pobox.com Check out H.W.S Internet Guide to Electronics as well. Links on my site.