Hi All, I needed another programmer and got a picstart plus(on sale right now). It's a little slow, but seems to work. My question regards MPLAB: First thing I decided to do was blow a propclock chip, so I pulled the 16F84 out of the clock on my desk and read it into memory. Wanting to play by the rules, I set the device type to 16F84 before reading, then set it to 16C84 before burning the sample chip that came with the Picstart Plus. Hey! changing the device type clears the buffer! Is there a simpler way around this than copying and pasting, or doing an intermediate save? I am using MPLAB 3.22 which came with the Picstart. TIA. Cheers, Bob http://www.bobblick.com/