For newbees like, may find interesting From David Taits page: http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/piclinks.html (linked fron http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/ ) There is a file "first.txt" that tells you how to program your first pic it is also available inside: http://www.man.ac.uk/~mbhstdj/files/topic02.zip (112K) also inside this zip it tells you how to make a board (schematics) that can program (software included in zip too) and run projects for the 16C84 on the same board. Hope this helps Dean. (-; When they broke open molecules, they found they were only stuffed with atoms. But when they broke open atoms, they found them stuffed with explosions. ;-) > Subject: spanking new questions about programming > Date: Sunday, 26 October 1997 1:58 > > well, its that little kid again who wants to know big league stuff and > just cant' grasp on to it again...anyway, I have, by a strike of extremely > good fortune obtained a picstart plus. I now have the hardware but now I > need learn the software...AAAAARRRGGHHH! I've want to do something with a > pic for about a week or two now, but all I have really done with the > programmer is read its memory (I think that is what I did) I skimed over > the manuals, and was wondering what a few things were, so here goes > nothing... > what are the things that I need to get a program on the pic, I know I need > the .asm file and then I need to run it through the assembler right? do I > need that .inc file? what is it for? do I need any other files? (I'm > running mplab 3.31 by the way) > > well heck, if anyone is so inclined, just send me some really easy project > that I could do right now (hopefully there are a bunch of comment lines on > them...hint, hint) ie blinking an LED, or turning anLED on with a button > push, etc. > > also, how do I wire up risistors and capacitors to my 16c84 as an > oscilator? (oh yea, I neglected to mention that I am using the 16c84, > oops) some ceramic resonators are on there way, as well as a 16f84-10. > oh yea.. waht is the differences between the -04 and the -10? does one > run faster than another, also I have heard that you can put in any crystal > between 4 and 10 MHZ as the osscilator, is that the actal clock speed? > what's up with that? > > gall dern I must be a pain in the putoot.